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Old 11-15-2007, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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top 100 Players...

The Association of Football Statisticians' (AFS) compendium of 'Greatest Ever Footballers', due to hit the shelves in time for Christmas, used a points based 'all time player ranking system' to reveal that Pele is in fact, and you won't believe this, the best football player the world has ever seen.

...read the entire artical ESPNsoccernet - England - Your Verdict: 100 greatest ever footballers


The top 100...(accroding to AFS)

1.Pele (Brazil)
2.Ronaldo (Brazil)
3.Romario (Brazil)
4.Luis Figo (Portugal)
5.Zinedine Zidane (France)
6.Diego Maradona (Argentina)
7.Lothar Matthaus (Germany)
8.Gerd Muller (Germany)
9.Franz Beckenbauer (Germany)
10.Cafu (Brazil)
11.Roberto Carlos (Brazil)
12.Marco van Basten (Holland)
13.Michel Platini (France)
14.Rivaldo (Brazil)
15.Paolo Maldini (Italy)
16.Zico (Brazil)
17.Raul (Spain)
18.Ruud Gullit (Holland)
19.Eusebio (Portugal)
20.Ferenc Puskas (Hungary)
21.Johan Cruyff (Holland)
22.Alfredo di Stefano(Argentina)
23.Bobby Charlton (England)
24.Jurgen Klinsmann (Ger)
25.Kenny Dalglish (Scotland)
26.Ali Daei (Iran)
27.Karl-Heinz Rummenigge (Ger)
28.Gabriel Batistuta (Argentina)
29.Michael Laudrup (Denmark)
30.Hristo Stoichkov (Bulgaria)
31.Dennis Bergkamp (Holland)
32.Frank Rijkaard (Holland)
33.Thierry Henry (France)
34.Pavel Nedved (Czech Rep)
35.Gheorghe Hagi (Romania)
36.Peter Schmeichel(Denmark)
37.Andrei Shevchenko (Ukraine)
38.Sepp Maier (Germany)
39.Didier Deschamps (France)
40.Lilian Thuram (France)
41.Enzo Francescoli (Uruguay)
42.Hakan Sukur (Turkey)
43.Paolo Rossi (Italy)
44.David Beckham (England)
45.Jean-Pierre Papin (France)
46.Kevin Keegan (England)
47.Marcel Desailly (France)
48.Oliver Kahn (Germany)
49.Alessandro Costacurta (Ita)
50.Clarence Seedorf (Holland)
51.Dino Zoff (Italy)
52.Patrick Kluivert (Holland)
53.Jari Litmanen (Finland)
54.Daniel Passarella (Arg)
55.Bixente Lizarazu (France)
56.Gary Lineker (England)
57.Ronaldhino (Brazil)
58.Sylvain Wiltord (France)
59.Bebeto (Brazil)
60.Alessandro Del Piero (Italy)
61.Davor Suker (Croatia)
62.Ryan Giggs (Wales)
63.David Trezeguet (France)
64.Demetrio Albertini (Italy)
65.Patrick Vieira (France)
66.Jurgen Kohler (Germany)
67.Laurent Blanc (France)
68.Michael Owen (England)
69.Youri Djorkaeff (France)
70.Frank De Boer (Holland)
71.Emilio Butragueno (Spain)
72.Hugo Sanchez (Mexico)
73.Rudi Voller (Germany)
74.Djalma Santos (Brazil)
75.Giacinto Facchetti (Italy)
76.Kanu (Nigeria)
77.Franco Baresi (Italy)
78.Gianni Rivera (Italy)
79.Roberto Baggio (Italy)
80.Oscar Ruggeri (Argentina)
81.Gheorghe Popescu(Romania)
82.Jon D. Tomasson (Denmark)
83.Raymond Kopa (France)
84.Carlos Valderrama (Colombia)
85.Rui Costa (Portugal)
86.Gary Neville (England)
87.Edgar Davids (Holland)
88.Claudio Taffarel (Brazil)
89.Paul Scholes (England)
90.Diego Simeone (Argentina)
91.Bryan Robson (England)
92.Roy Keane (Rep of Ireland)
93.Brian Laudrup (Denmark)
94.Henrik Larsson (Sweden)
95.Fabien Barthez (France)
96.Michael Ballack (Germany)
97.Jan Koller (Czech Republic)
98.Edwin van der Sar (Holland)
99.Robert Pires (France)
100.Johan Neeskens (Holland)


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Old 11-15-2007, 04:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think some of the names on the list and the ranking are a jock


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Old 11-15-2007, 04:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Luis Figo (4) Maradona (6) ?

But any how....i saw this on the web and wanted to share it with you.


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Old 11-15-2007, 04:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You should try and find the official FIFA one or something different...it looked better, even though I think Pele wasn't first, and Garrincha was in there, take a look though...I like the top three of yours though


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Old 11-15-2007, 05:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The above list is according to The Association of Football Statisticians' (AFS).
If it was my own list, I would have done a few things differant.

I'll see if I can find the official list from FIFA.


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Old 11-15-2007, 05:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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yeah I meant yours as in your list you found, I dunno if it was FIFA, but have a look around.


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Old 11-15-2007, 05:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This List is according to World Soccer Magazine
I looks much better then the first one.

The 100 Greatest Players Of The 20th Century


1 Pelé
2 Diego Maradona
3 Johan Cruyff
4 Franz Beckenbauer
5 Michel Platini
6 Alfredo Di Stéfano
7 Ferenc Puskás
8 George Best
9 Marco Van Basten
10 Eusébio
11 Lev Yashin
12 Bobby Charlton
13 Ronaldo
14 Bobby Moore
15 Gerd Müller
16 Roberto Baggio
17 Stanley Matthews
18 Zico
19 Franco Baresi
20 Garrincha
21 Paolo Maldini
22 Kenny Dalglish
23 Gabriel Batistuta
24 Éric Cantona
25 Gheorghe Hagi
26 Romário
27 Jairzinho
28 Zinedine Zidane
29 Ruud Gullit
30 John Charles
31 Lothar Matthäus
32 Gordon Banks
33 Jürgen Klinsmann
34 Dennis Bergkamp
35 Karl-Heinz Rummenigge
36 Gary Lineker
37 Giuseppe Meazza
38 Rivelino
39 Didi
40 Ian Rush
41 Peter Schmeichel
42 Paolo Rossi
43 George Weah
44 Michael Owen
45 Just Fontaine
46 Duncan Edwards
47 Dino Zoff
48 Hristo Stoichkov
49 David Beckham
50 Tom Finney
51 Rivaldo
52 Claudio Caniggia
53 Tostăo
54 Frank Rijkaard
55 José Luis Chilavert
56 Kevin Keegan
57 Paul Gascoigne
58 Roger Milla
59 Michael Laudrup
60 Andriy Shevchenko
61 David Ginola
62 Glenn Hoddle
63 Sócrates
64 Roberto Carlos
65 Alan Shearer
66 Daniel Passarella
67 Davor Šuker
68 Dixie Dean
69 Sándor Kocsis
70 Juan Alberto Schiaffino
71 Christian Vieri
72 Mario Kempes
73 Johan Neeskens
74 Luigi Riva
75 Jose Nasazzi
76 Günter Netzer
77 Alessandro Del Piero
78 Carlos Valderrama
79 Ricardo Zamora
80 Enzo Francescoli
81 Edgar Davids
82 Francisco Gento
83 Jim Baxter
84 Falcăo
85 Ryan Giggs
86 Sepp Maier
87 Zbigniew Boniek
88 Pat Jennings
89 György Sárosi
90 Giacinto Facchetti
91 Alan Hansen
92 Raymond Kopa
93 Bryan Robson
94 Matthias Sammer
95 Ladislav Kubala
96 Neville Southall
97 Gérson
98 Paulo Futre
99 Preben Elkjćr-Larsen
100 Bebeto


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Old 11-15-2007, 05:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yes probably better, still think there's one that rates Pele not first though :P


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Old 11-15-2007, 06:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'll see if I can find it....and I'll post it.


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Old 11-17-2007, 12:12 AM   #10 (permalink)
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world soccer! my favorite magazine.
btw this is my list:

1 zidane
2 pele
3 beckenbeur
4 maradona
5 di stefano
6 ronaldinho
7 puskas
8 figo
9 ballack
10 captain jack sparrow


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Old 11-17-2007, 12:19 AM   #11 (permalink)
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That list is amazing. Figo above Eusebio? Above Maradona? but anyways Im glad you posted it because most of it is accurate.


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Old 11-17-2007, 02:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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That list is amazing. Figo above Eusebio? Above Maradona? but anyways Im glad you posted it because most of it is accurate.
I also posted a second list from World Soccer Magazine. That list is more acurate then the first list.


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Old 11-17-2007, 01:58 PM   #13 (permalink)
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You should try and find the official FIFA one or something different...it looked better, even though I think Pele wasn't first, and Garrincha was in there, take a look though...I like the top three of yours though
Yes thank you mate , i've been looking for that name for ages , garincha , he scored the most goals in soccer history , right ? because i saw it in a documentary. EDIT : wait a second , holy crap it's not the one sorry garincha is that brazillian winger that has something wrong with his foot , i think it makes him turn easier . anyway i saw this documentary , and the guy in it said that there was a player before pele , ages before him near the beginning of soccer , i don't know when that scored so many goals . but it's probably a false alarm .



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Old 11-17-2007, 02:51 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yes thank you mate , i've been looking for that name for ages , garincha , he scored the most goals in soccer history , right ? because i saw it in a documentary. EDIT : wait a second , holy crap it's not the one sorry garincha is that brazillian winger that has something wrong with his foot , i think it makes him turn easier . anyway i saw this documentary , and the guy in it said that there was a player before pele , ages before him near the beginning of soccer , i don't know when that scored so many goals . but it's probably a false alarm .
I'm not realy sure, but i think his name was Josef "Pepi" Bican
He lived from 1913-2001


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Old 11-17-2007, 03:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
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gianluigi buffon makes mine

rest is pretty standard, pele, maradona, eusebio, zidane, beckenbauer, etc etc


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Old 11-17-2007, 06:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Yes thank you mate , i've been looking for that name for ages , garincha , he scored the most goals in soccer history , right ? because i saw it in a documentary. EDIT : wait a second , holy crap it's not the one sorry garincha is that brazillian winger that has something wrong with his foot , i think it makes him turn easier . anyway i saw this documentary , and the guy in it said that there was a player before pele , ages before him near the beginning of soccer , i don't know when that scored so many goals . but it's probably a false alarm .
I don't think Garrincha had a messed up foot, definately not the most goals (Pele )


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Old 11-18-2007, 01:06 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Garrincha had one leg shorter than the other.

I dont lie this list it should be 1. pele 2. maradona 3. eusebio in my opinion


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Old 11-19-2007, 12:20 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Garrincha had one leg shorter than the other.

I dont lie this list it should be 1. pele 2. maradona 3. eusebio in my opinion

I've never seen any clips from Eusebio, so I'm not realy sure how he plays.
But I think the fist five are just perfect the way it is.
Five of the greatest players of all time. No doubt about it. Each of them are legends in their own country.

1 Pelé
2 Diego Maradona
3 Johan Cruyff
4 Franz Beckenbauer
5 Michel Platini


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Old 11-19-2007, 12:22 PM   #19 (permalink)
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i think theyve got this way too screwed up

1. pele
2. maradona
3. eusebio
4. beckenbaur


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Old 11-19-2007, 12:29 PM   #20 (permalink)
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i think theyve got this way too screwed up

1. pele
2. maradona
3. eusebio
4. beckenbaur
yes, this is exactly what i think it should be


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Old 11-19-2007, 07:16 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I think this is truly farked up.. I once saw a sig saying.
Pele Good. Maradona Ok. George Best
Get it?


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get it, dont believe it


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Old 11-19-2007, 07:38 PM   #23 (permalink)
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i think theyve got this way too screwed up

1. pele
2. maradona
3. eusebio
4. beckenbaur
No Italians eh?

jk lol.


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No Italians eh?

jk lol.
gigi makes top 10, not top 4


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Old 11-19-2007, 07:40 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I think this is truly farked up.. I once saw a sig saying.
Pele Good. Maradona Ok. George Best
Get it?

Could someone post some records/important info on George Best? You can beat me for this I don't know much about him, did he score 1000+ goals or something?

I know he is British right?


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northern irish, but pretty much british

George Best
Personal information
Full name George Best
Date of birth May 22, 1946(1946-05-22)
Place of birth Belfast, Northern Ireland
Date of death November 25, 2005 (aged 59)
Place of death London, England
Playing position Winger
Youth clubs
1963 Manchester United
Senior clubs1
Years Club App (Gls)*
1963-1974
1975
1975-1976
1976+1977+1978
1976-1977
1979+1980
1979-1980
1979-1980+1981
1983
1983
1984
Manchester United
Stockport County (loan)
Cork Celtic
Los Angeles Aztecs
Fulham
Fort Lauderdale Strikers
Hibernian
San Jose Earthquakes
Bournemouth
Brisbane Lions
Tobermore United
Career
361 (137)
003 00(2)
003 00(0)
061 0(29)
042 00(8)
033 00(7)
022 00(3)
086 0(34)
005 00(0)
004 00(0)
001 00(0)
621 (220)
National team
1964-1978 Northern Ireland 037 00(9)
1 Senior club appearances and goals
counted for the domestic league only.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:55 PM   #27 (permalink)
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It wasnt just about George Scoring but when he was on the pitch its like no other. Who cares about Maradona.. Yes he was good but if Pete Rose was not in the Hall Of Fame then we shouldnt worry about Maradona either.


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